Today’s conversation is the first in Fresh Art International’s new Curator Playlist series.

They’re inviting artists, curators, architects, writers, filmmakers, cultural producers and other listeners to introduce archival episodes from their playlists.

Curator/writer Sasha Dees listens to Remy Jungerman, a podcast from 2014, this years one of two artists selected for the Dutch Pavilion in the La Biennale di Venezia.

Sasha Dees writes: There are many podcasts I have enjoyed over the years since I was introduced to Cathy Byrd by Amy Sherald in 2012. But the episodes she made during her residency in Amsterdam are dear to my heart. My choice from the archive is the episode with artist Remy Jungerman. Five years after the podcast, he is the selection for the Dutch Pavilion in the Venice Biennale. It has been a lot of work in Europe for non-white artists to conquer their rightful space within the art field. I am extremely proud of Remy, who worked consistently with great determination and passion, who kept investing in his own practice, and never veered off the path of being a professional artist or wavered from his artistic urgency. In 2019, presenting his work in the Venice Biennale is so well deserved.


From the Netherlands, curator, writer and arts producer Sasha Dees works internationally. An advisor to numerous festivals and arts venues, she’s known for encouraging artists to experiment with classical art forms. Her practice centers on creating new dialogues and forging collaborations across cultures, traditions, genders and art disciplines. Here, she introduces my conversation with Remy Jungerman, first released on September 18, 2014.

The Surinamese-Dutch artist talks about the influences of European modernism and Afro-religious aesthetics on his practice, and describes a public art he created in Morengo, his home town. A participating artist in Prospect.3, the 2014 international contemporary art exhibition in New Orleans, Jungerman showed his work a the Joan Mitchell Center from late October 2014, to January 2015. His art will be on view in the Dutch Pavilion at the 58th Venice Art Biennale.


Sound Editor: Anamnesis Audio | Special Audio: Chris Quinlan, drum set and Evan Dyson, toad mating call

Related episodes: Franklin Sirmans on Prospect New Orleans, Mapping Caribbean Cultural Ecologies, Sasha Dees on Miss T — My American Dream

Related links: 58th Venice Art Biennale, Dutch Pavilion 2019